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I know there are Walking Dead custom maps, but I don't see why we have Rick and Michonne as operators yet cant get Walking Dead zombie maps released. I agree, zombies needs to have more fun. There should be the main line canon story maps and then other maps that are for the fun of it.

A perk system where you upgrade perks in-game by doing challenges relevant to the perk? Hey, that sounds familiar! I do that in my mod, MWZ (it was called this years before MWIII existed, so excuse the overlap in names lol). To make progress on upgrading perks, you must own the perk you wish to upgrade, and complete a challenge relevant to it. You do not lose its upgrade progress/state when you lose the perk, as losing the perk is punishment enough (and with some of the changes I've made with my mod, being perkless is much more brutal than vanilla BO3 for most players). Try searching for Modern Warfare Zombies on BO3's Steam Workshop sometime and give it a go. I recommend playing on a simpler map first so you can get your bearings, since the mod overhauls a lot of the game. There's more to the perk system than I've mentioned here, and I think you'll like it. You definitely become very OP eventually, but you need to earn it first. Assuming you're acquiring and upgrading perks at a reasonable pace, you should roughly scale in power to the zombies as the waves progress. All of the perks are reworked to complement each other and suit the MW theme, so unlike most mods which use Treyarch's perks and throw in some custom ones, everything here is from the ground up made with various synergies in mind for a specialized kind of design approach and balance I've specifically intentioned. If I weren't doing an MW mod (which encourages overpoweredness) and trying to do a "perfect" Treyarch-style perk system, with some of the changes/improvements I've made for my mod, I'd definitely approach the balance differently (less perks for starters), but I think you'll appreciate some of the ideas I've got in there.

Cw also had armour which broke the entire early round difficulty of building up till you get jugg. Personally I'm under the impression that perks where to give you a slight edge over the hoard and cw destroyed that and I though when they said upgraded perks I though it would be a challenge like bo1 mp pro perks where you get a little bit of bonus

i feel like they should bring back perk limit, just up it a lil to 5 or 6 instead of 4 and give us ways of getting more by doing some sidequests. that way we earn our extra perks, they wonderfizz can give random perks again which is way better imo

Allow ranking up in zombies to give you in game rewards. Like an extra perk slot for max prestige. Or extra starter ammo for prestiging to level 1. Things that feel rewarding for grinding the ranking system. Or a an extra frag during spawn, or a free monkey bomb at spawn, or the first magazine to shoot ray gun rays at spawn, fun things that don’t break the game but could be cool and useful while reaching max prestige.

I think Dr. Monty’s factory should be the same in bo6 as it is in bo3 but once you’ve got a gobblegum once you can then directly purchase it as many times as you want

uh infinite warfare was technically not the first time you could remove perks. Moon had that as well.

The problem of "difficulty" in WW2 is very superficial. There is no Jug, go back and play BO3 and 2 without Jug. I actually quite enjoy WW2, but people's issues with it are legitimate. IW can be great, but it's pretty obvious that the game was built around BO3's engine... Which was balanced around a shield, and IW doesn't have a shield. Instant downs are quite frequent on that game, regardless of skill. Let alone the fact that Spaceland is leagues and bounds better than the rest of the content on offer. The variants are a disgusting grind also, by the way. Vanguard should never be defended. MW3 is worse sure. That doesn't excuse the garbage that is Vanguard.

I like the cold war system but i feel like the seperate prices are better for the machines themselves and i like the random locarions like bo3 has

I agree with everything you said EXCEPT buying specific gobblegums only because I think the RNG on which gobble you get from spinning liquid divinium is super important because without that you could for example buy a bunch of perkaholics or shopping frees with the in game currency and then you would use them up without regard because you can always just buy more whereas with the current randomized system you have to put more thought into whether or not you want to use your perkaholic because you don’t know when the next time you’ll get one will be thus making them more valuable.

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Der Wunderfizz is a great concept, but completely broken in implementation. Couple changes could be a 3 perk limit per round, rotating locations like BO2/BO3, and a tax on prices to incentivize buying perks directly from their machines. One thing I love about Cold War is the escalating perk cost with the more you buy

If perks are going to be upgraded it should be in game. But like Cold War you get either crystals but they are used for buying you’re gobble gums directly not randomised

In the Black Ops 6 Direct, we have seen that the developers are implementing more hit zones (a total of 9) on the character models when being shot at. Since we all agree that the current points system for zombies needs a change, this could be a solution. What if, based on where we hit zombies, we earned different point values in BO6's zombies? The old system of earning points per hit on a zombie could be reiterated. With a total of nine new hit zones, we could earn points in different ways based on where we shoot at a zombie. The old Black Ops 3 point system, where we earned points per hit, was a much better iteration than the current system. It provided much more variety in how we approached earning points. If Black Ops 6 brings this old mechanic back with the new hit zone calculation, it would greatly benefit the game.

Hot take, ww2 final reich zombies easter egg is the best beginner/casual experience whistle being a great hard-core map aswell

Instead of the super easter egg reward being directors cut again, they could unlock a room in each map which has the cold war wunderfizz. Instead of perk upgrades I think the modifier system should return. Have it so the final perk you can buy get the modifier, this could mean some people choose not to get jug till the later rounds

Saying that "perk system has never been perfected" is kinda irrelevant because it can never be perfected. It's such a subjective thing that a perfect system could never really be achieved for everyone. For me B03 was perfect. Cold War rewarded players for commitment to the mode, the ability to play games and upgrade, and then go back into your next game stronger was the point thats were the fun is. Limiting the amount of perks a player can have is limiting fun. Cold war allowed you to be the boss, but then as rounds got higher you still were challenged, plus with the field upgrades, you had endless ways to play. On top of that, YOU CAN LIMIT YOURSELF, its like if you didnt like having all the perks or feeling overpowered just dont play with all perks? Idk i found that a dumb complaint. 4 perk or 5 perk systems dont work, it limits the fun of the player, you have like 2 or 3 guaranteed must needed perks such as Jug, Speed and Stamina that leaves you with 1 or 2 perks to play with. Which is also why it was a decent system in BO2 because there werent that many perks on the maps until the wunderfizz dropped but why it wouldn't work now with the amount of perks we have. One thing I did agree with you about is that we definitely should have the ability to remove perks, such as mule kick, when you dont want to have 3 guns. BO3 had by far the best system the combo of limited perks but then having gobble gums to balance it was perfect, and again, you could choose whether or not to use perkaholic or to make it harder for yourself, you could feel like a king or a peasant by choice. I think the best system is a system that offer the most player choice, for those players who want to be OP you can, and if you want a harder challenge you can. Easter Egg rewards should always exist and is one of the things Cold War got really wrong but then again I think treyarch really wanted to make zombies more accessible.

7:50 see people always say that. BUTTTTT they lit have the 4 og perks on in the game??? You get double tap by packapunching. You get speed cola by having all 4 perks. And you spawn in with a juggernaut.

They should make the gobblegum like the did the weapon variant system in infinite warfare (not the spinning the supply boxes) I mean each game you win like, “salvage” and then you can buy gobblegums with it. Make the salvage hard to get, and make the crutch gubblegims expensive. But don’t allow REAL money to buy gobblegum cause it ruins the game and the challenge

I would love the Cold War system but with these tweaks A. No perk upgrades, just give us decent balance from the start of progression. B. Either make the wonderful random again or make it only contain perks without a machine present in the map so you have to actually use the machines C. Finally I would reek the cost scaling from Cold War I would say your first perk is 2000 and goes up 1000 for the first four but after that each additional perk gets exponentially expensive so there more of a soft limit but still no hard limit

I don't really mind easy access to jugg and wonderfizz, because i rather noobs re-buy their perks then rage-quit. As someone who did all world at war,blk op 1, and some of blk op 2 easter eggs i am glad Cold war hand holds you through the easter eggs, i know some of you are going to say I like doing then without a marker pointing how to do it. Without those marks, most of you all just got to UA-cam and Reddit and learn how to do it so why not save time and have it pointed out or at least have an option to have it pointed out.

For the perk limits, you could have the option to buy a perk slot during games with points, going off 4 limit with 8 total perks, you could buy the 5th for 20k points, 6th for 25k, 7th for 30k and 8th for 35k, so they can be obtained each game, but it will take some time to do so.

The gobble gum system at 19:00 is actually a brilliant idea

Regarding perk placement, how do you feel about moon jug placement? Directly in spawn but not exactly a guarantee since speed can spawn, then you have to go throughout the whole game till you're ready to go back to area 51

I hate low less rewarding and more broadened the point system is now. The best part about the old point system is how diverse and rewarding it was for the player for understanding the system, you know shooting a zombie 3 times in the head with a 1911 on Round 3 to 4 for a one hit knife, stuff like that is what makes seeing the funny number go up so satisfying and the knowledge always gives you the upper hand on those early rounds in pub lobbies.

5:03 moon on bo1 was the first to implement being able to remove perks. It worked by getting the hacker on moon, then go up to a perk machine. You take out the hacker and hack the machine, it removes the perk of the corresponding machine along with the money you spent

idea! you can upgrade your perks like from cold war up to 3 times. but its a pick 10 system, if you take a level 3 perk in. you ony have 7 more levels to pick... if you take a default level 1 perk that only counts as 1.. giving you 6 more points you can "equip" take level 2 speed cola in you get 4 more points.. hope this makes sense but i think it could help nerf the staleness of cold war perks system

You don’t know what your talking about bo2 bo3 was perfect anything after was a shambles especially bo4

Oh man I still remember doing the tombstone trick to get almost all perks in BO2. Having 4 perks max feels so archaic nowadays.

This idea of a perk system isn’t bad, but for the people that have two jobs and just want to come and relax won’t like because it will feel like a chore just to get set up and play to a point that it won’t be enjoyable to play.

There should never be a perk limit. Its literally what Zombies is meant to be. Progression throughout the match.

Bring back two hand perks 🙏🏻

Loved the video, despite a few points I didn't entirely agree on - I think this is a discussion that's often had in snippets and heavily opinionated asides, and it's great to see a well-thought-out approach that dives into WHY certain ideas might be good or bad.

Origins is the perfect system

The MW Complete edition mod on BO3 does all of this and better. In fact, I really think the only way to make the perfect system is to implement the ideas that were created in that mod. I have zero belief that this next game is going to be any good, especially with the pushing of political agendas in the most recent COD games. But, such is life anymore in the entertainment sphere. Very few folks are making good games. Instead, folks are making sub-par cash-cows or leftists statements.

This isn't the perfect perk system. It's YOUR perk system. People have different play styles and find different perks to be stronger and more important than others. This system is clearly based around how you play the game and doesn't take into consideration how other players who don't like doing easter eggs or side quests for 1 extra perk would be hindered by these changes and a big part of the newer, more casual, playerbase would be put to play a more difficult game cause they just want to hop in a game just survive without needing to do hidden steps for a more enjoyable time

I would say i mostly agree with the changes to the system you brought up. The only things i disagree with is just upgrading perks at all. I feel if you did the mentioned challenges to upgrade your perks would feel like a chore to do when you may already have other secrets to do for extra equipment or wonder weapons ect. I wouldn't want to be searching 20 different Mr. Roflwaffle videos for 1 map. And the other thing is the pay for gobblegum. This one is just more of a personal thing but i just love the feeling of when you spin and get your desired perkaholic or shopping free or whatever. And i think saving currency to buy a specific gobblegum would be tedious. But everything else I 100% agree with.

I’m rather a good fan of cold wars system but the grind to level them up felt so short I hope if they do bring back cold wars system they tie the upgrades to a prestige system

Just have a perk limit by default. Then, have a way to break the limit. Special quests to unlock more spots just for that match, or maybe turn up the number of perks in custum mutations before the match.

I always wanted 5 perks since it was a must for QR in solo, but the idea of still being able to upgrade them while in game through challenges is honestly a great idea and it gives incentive to play longer and more often.

I love Zombies in spaceland, The only issue I have is the EE. THAT DAMN SAT-COM LOCATION IN THE TUNNELS NEAR RACING STRIPES.

there shouldn’t be a perk limit if the game has a system like to bo3 gobblegums which is almost pay to win IMO

20:26 There are no such thing as "Crutch Perks" in Classic Zombies. If you had to work your way to get to Juggernog, which was usually the hardest one to get in most maps, that's not a crutch, you're *_supposed_* to get that. If a perk is necessary for progression as it directly upgrades your core ability of shooting, taking hits and reloading, opting not to get that is a handicap. The "Crutch Perk" exists exclusively in multiplayer with infamously poor perk balancing back in the day, and is where the term comes from.

I think the best way would be having a perj limit but you can increase those limits somehow in the match. Because you can get all the perks but not at first because you have to get more slots

Bro does NOT like the cold war wunderfizz

I think a good compromise for the wunderfizz in cold war for BO6 would be to make it so that only the perks that aren’t on the map are in the wunderfizz like in BO3 on some maps. Solving the problem of making perk machines useless

I agree with having a perk limit and having a challenge to get more perk slots, as its a nice middleground between the classic cods and CW's "no perk slots" system. However, idk if I agree with getting rid of CW's meta-progression with perk upgrades. There's something satisfying about slowly upgrading your perks as you play and getting better perks as time goes on. I think a nice compromise would be maybe bringing back the perma perk system from BO2, and having that be the upgrades for your perks. That way you can have some of that power progression between games, but you're still required todo something in a given game to unlock it; if you really wanna mimick bo2, you could even make it so that certain mechanics could make you lose the perma perk so that you don't have the upgrade permantly. speaking of perma perks, they're also a great alternative to dealing with the perk limit/crutch perk issue, as you could use a perma perk to bypass the traditional 4 perk slots. Having the phd perma perk from buried is a great example of this

Top 5 Perk Systems 1. Cold War 2. IW 3. Black Ops IV 4. Vanguard 5. Black Ops III

I had the same feeling after doing the perkaholic EE in forsaken because I already had most of the perks, a perk limit makes getting extra perks badass especially if it’s a perk you wanted, with no perk limit it’s just like cool that’s one less perk I don’t have to buy

5:05 Correction, Moon was the first map in cod zombies that allows you to remove perks with the hacker device.